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now, while i intend to serve out my term as a member of congress from the 7th district of virginia, effective july 31st, i will be stepping down as majority leader. it is with great humility that i do so knowing the tremendous honor it has been to hold this position. >> that was house majority leader eric cantor moments after a news conference. eric cantor got trounsed by dave brat who ran on simple but true
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conservative ideas. >> there wasn't a contest between the tea party and the republicans and all this, although i had tremendous tea party support and just wonderful people in the tea party and grassroots helped me out and they are clearly responsible for the win, but i ran on the republican principles, and we have this republican creed in virginia and the only problem with the republican principles is no one is following them. >> well, before the left gets on the soap boxes and declare the gop in disarray, they should realize he was tripped up by his own inauthenticity, his own disregard for the people of virginia and his own greed, a lust to be the next speaker of the house. >> wow, how do you really feel? >> let's face it. cantor spent $168,000 at steak houses which is more than what brat spent on his campaign, so he got chucked while eating
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chuck. he got dethroned while eating a t-bone. and he went down on the ground round. >> did you work on that? >> did you google meat puns? >> you know, i'm that transparent. >> did you really? >> cantor's polyester is about reliable as a chocolate tea pot. 35 points. this guy probably new coke was going to replace h2o. he's blaming the democrats, right? he's saying the democrats came and voted in this election. >> shocked across the board. how did they miss it so badly? >> this is not unusual. we've had people not take care of their people in their in
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their home states. he was constantly working on, as you say, becoming speaker or trying to be a national republican figure, and when something like that happens, people tend back home to get resentful about it. what he should have noticed the last time he had a primary, it was relatively close, and if you are a guy like that, you ought to be saying to yourself this might be a closer race than i think, he should have been back campaigning. the guy was not back there. >> and a lot of the immediate reaction by the left, see what'n disarray. i'm going to push back a little. can we say it wasn't necessarily solely about amnesty and immigration. lindsey graham good example. >> opponents of immigration say it's a win for them. tea party patriots say it's a win for them. democrats say he's too extreme. they are all wrong. bob is right about the lack of
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constituent services. he was too focused on washington, d.c. and not on virginia enough. the real story he was hyperfocused on virginia. earlier this year, he started a pac called young guns, what he tried to do was to take out these local party chairmen. he lost. he got bludgeoned earlier this year. he lost four out of five of these races in these congressional districts. these party chairmen then coalesced and united and beat him and put every effort on the ground in virginia on a grassroots level. it's not about ignoring virginia. it's about having your priorities wrong and declaring a war in your state,s that's politics 101. he said plils is -- politics is
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local. last night, i believe it was on hannity show, mr. brat said money doesn't vote, people vote. and in fact the numbers bear that out. $200,000 he had in his war chest. eric cantor, $5 million. >> he ran a smart campaign and won it at the grassroots level. people didn't feel ignored. i think this is an important lesson politically and i will tell you what, i bet those people making calls and those changes in their campaigns right now with elections coming up that will also be contested. they are going to be close, that are going to be tough. rethink the whole thing and don't necessarily trust your polyester. >> the guy who won who is a professor. he's a free market professor. that's like a tall leprechaun, but he's going up against a
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professor. they are both professors. same school it's like an independent film. one could be jeff daniels, the other could be philip seymour hoffman but he's dead. >> he did pay a lot of attention in virginia, but in other congressional districts he tried to knock off the chairs in those districts. he got beaten. he wanted the whole of virginia to have a grassroots operation. he went after chairmen in somebody else's district. that's something you don't do but he was not paying attention to the people who vote in primaries. >> and his top lieutenants were defeated, so he was left with no real grassroots presence and a lot of people said to him let bygons be bygones. make peace with the grassroots party. he didn't do that. if he didn't go with the strategy of going to war, his
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opponent wouldn't have got the 35%. they thought they could take him down, they are going to win by 20, 30 points. >> other congressional districts came in and helped -- actually turned out -- >> they did. they worked very united to defeat him and a quick point about the democratic turnout. a lot of people say democratic turnout wasn't high. that is true in typically african-american districts but here was the death nell for him, white rich liberals, five to ten thousand of them because they hate eric cantor more than the republicans do. so they came out, and that was -- i wouldn't say the reason he won, but they certainly aided and abetted that loss. >> that's what the pollster is saying. because it was liberals that came out and voted. maybe they wanted a more vulnerable candidate to go up against their candidate. >> maybe for both reasons. >> can we talk about now what?
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so eric cantor says he will support whip mccarthy, but there are other names floating around. there's paul ryan. >> i think mccarthy has got that one locked up. but the other thing is -- everybody wrote this morning right away that this was anti immigration vote. it was not. the polling that was done there in fact showed the people in that district and the people who voted favored the immigration bill that's sitting in the senate. they were in favor of the bill that passed the senate. it had nothing to do with that. the republicans here are running like scalded dogs away from immigration. >> it's a victory of specifics versus comprehensive. we've always talked about how bad things are when you put comprehensive health care, climate change, immigration, education, comprehensive always means coercion and we know that as conservatives and libertarians. we hear that. we reject that idea.
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it was more about small piecemeal advances as opposed to a giant government force taking over. >> can we stay on that for a second? is eric cantor -- i don't know -- the symbol for big government, is it for the establishment and as andrea points out, is this the grassroots, enough of that? >> we ate the word -- hate the word sweeping. >> is there going to be a pushback, other candidates like eric cantor, the establishment, the boehners, the big names that have been there for countless terms? >> boehner won his primary so there's very few of them left. >> there may be a lot that may be vulnerable coming up. >> from my side, what worries me is the turnout. from the democrat standpoint, i look at that district and i see a turnout that's 30% higher than it was last primary season, you
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know, there's a lot of people turning out and they ain't turning out for democrats. that was my very first reaction this morning. >> you asked a good question, eric. is this going to be a ground swell? i do think a lot more local active visits and conservative wing of the party are very upset. they were saying look, you guys are not staying true to the grassroots principles. >> who really wants that job? >> stay on boehner for a second. there was a lot of people who said john boehner wanted to retire but he stuck around because he really didn't like eric cantor. they don't get along. now that cantor is out of the picture, does that make john
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boehner stronger as speaker or does that make him say my job is done, i can leave now and i can retire in florida? >> there's no love lost with mccarthy and boehner. i think he was sending a message about can'ter. -- cantor. he did nothing for cantor. not a single dollar from the speakers fund. that's an indication to me. how you miss this. if you have a pollster that tells you, if i'm up 30 points two weeks out, it's over. >> you go show up in your district when the polls are open? >> it's unprecedented. >> he stayed in d.c. >> but it's unprecedented to have that kind of shift and what was his favorability rating which is something should keep in mind in politics?
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his favorability, 50% negative. >> don't you think a lot of republican pollsters got it completely wrong this last presidential election? >> absolutely. >> it's really tough to figure out where the grassroots turnout will be. you can take your polls. >> that's what happened in virginia. >> it's unbelievable how long they got. >> it's got to make everybody feel vulnerable. bob, you hit it on the head with that. they should be concerned now. that would be my biggest concern if i had a democratic candidate, you know what, they are going to mobilize, they are turning out with passion. >> i feel vulnerable right now. >> i have to confess, i'm sure there are people out there that are talking about this that had no idea who dave brat was. i never heard of him. we never even did a segment -- we've never mentioned this name on the show. >> we were in the green room before the show yesterday, saying is he vulnerable, no, no, he's got it locked up. >> a large percentage didn't know who -- they didn't know the
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guy. they were in there to vote against cantor. >> anybody but cantor. i put a piece on dot com. next is the president's agenda now dead. dramatic testimony from chuck hagel defending the bergdahl-terrorist swap. plus, i told you about this last night. you notice our good presented bob beckle isn't here tonight. tonight, i set him up on a blind date. >> do you have high hopes for this? >> how did bob's big borderline date go -- blind date go? will there be a second date? coming right up.
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>> how majority leader eric cantor was voted out of office last night and many pundits think his support for immigration reform is the key reason behind his defeat. they say legislation may now be dead on arrival. the white house remains optimistic and will right on cue, rush limbaugh tells them not to be complacent. >> they are never going to get a bill before august. no, no, no, no, no. not predicting it, but i'm just going to tell you that i won't be surprised if the behind the doors attitude is one of disgust and anger at the people of this country and the voters in cantor's district and the reaction, okay, let's show them what's what and just move this
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amnesty bill forward. >> all right. so while i don't think that immigration played a big role in this cantor race, kimberly, you have the speaker of the house, john boehner, who wants immigration reform. you have a party that's split on the issue and maybe now scared because of the spin surrounding immigration reform. >> i think it's challenging to do. of course, the democrats, the white house wanted it to happen, did they lose any momentum with this. they were quick to go out with their talking points. don't blame this on immigration. look at lindsey graham. this isn't what happened to eric cantor. i don't know that their argument and their statements are persuasive enough to promote, you know, action for them to go ahead and support it. i don't think so. >> bob, you've been talking a lot about turnout and how democrats are panicked about their turnout. my opinion on whether or not the gop should take it up, i think
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it would be political suicide for the republicans to take up immigration reform because the mid term election is where you do want the base to turn out and we do have the base turning out and this may divide the party during a time we're pretty united and doing pretty well. >> this is what greg said. but the idea of comprehensive -- i think back -- always has been a tough sell. i have predicted all along this will not come up before the elections but it will come up between the lame duck session. they will come back when the new congress is sworn in. a lot of these republicans are leaving. i think they will vote for immigration reform. it will pass. we'll have a senate bill and we'll have immigration reform. >> i think the democrats are trying to scare republicans by coming to the table. don't you think this is all a big bluff? >> i think, boy, this is tough,
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again, comprehensive immigration reform is scary, but reform might not be scary if the republicans were smart, they would figure out a way to find out a reform that wasn't amnesty but it was nonetheless reform, basically saying to the hispanic community, we're inviting, we're open to ideas, just some of the things that were passed were just too harsh. he's been on this from the get go. he's been a staunchly against any form of amnesty and that's what really helped brat to win. was the conservative radio voice is saying -- >> my point is this -- >> earlier it did not think it was immigration. >> the left is saying it's immigration and i think you are right. >> you are taking talk radio was -- >> because you are hanging yourself every election, more
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and more hispanic voters and republicans turn them off more and more. i would likes to see it because it's the right thing to do. if you get an immigration reform bill and it's perceived the republicans did something about it, that's going to be a problem. >> greg, you mentioned comprehensive immigration reform before. i think that's code for everything in the kitchen sink. people saw what the bill was and it was a disaster, so they tried to do single border security bills all alone. and they couldn't get the votes. democrats want to have that amnesty piece. so is comprehensive reform the only thing -- >> it's kind of what they do with other issues. it's got to be this whole thing and that allows them to reject small advancement. it's not immigration reform people want. they want border reform. you can't fill a tub without a plug and the thing is -- >> thanks for that. >> this election cannot be about immigration. you cannot allow that to happen
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because it's about competence. you have so much issue, the irs, taliban five, the economy, the instability around the world. if we allow the debate to shift over to talking about immigration then the obama administration gets a pass on six years of partisan -- >> they talk about border security and they want to build this 12-foot fence, if they do, i'm going to be the first person to invest in 13 foot ladders. >> the senate democrats. >> that won't fix the problem. >> here's the point. you put the ball in their court and say okay you turn this down, you say you don't want a secure border. >> you keep saying that, but unless you guys get around the idea that you can't win elections without hispanic. >> why is that anti hispanic?
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>> they tried to do that. they tried to do a border security piece to put pressure on them, they always want that amnesty piece. it would be great to do that. it would be. >> either harry reid wouldn't do the vote or it failed in the senate. >> eric holder is sending a whole bunch of laws down to defend these kids that are in these camps down south. it's not a bad trade. i would say let's have the kids. you guys keep the lawyers. why not? that's a good trade. >> always against the lawyers. >> hillary clinton gets pressed hard on benghazi two years after the fact. it didn't go very well. we've got the tape. that's up when we come back.
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>> right now, monica lewinsky is breathing easier tonight. diane sawyer has replaced her with hillary has worst person ever. she was pushed to benghazi. taking her to that bad place called the truth. she takes responsibility. >> i take responsibility but i was not making security decisions. >> oh, my goodness. i think we need a translator who can speak bull crap. it was a rhetorical equivalent of silly. so you got a presidential hopeful who not only shirked her role but blamed a video to save
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her hide. it's her competence, she makes john kerry look statesman like. she stepped in more dog pop than a drug mail man. you must wonder why the person who took copious notes on the event cannot form a coherent response afterwards. the fog of hillary has become clearer. she's all pant suit. no cattle. >> bob you get that joke i want to play the whole sound on tape. >> anything you personally should have been doing make it safer in benghazi? >> well, what irm was give very direct instruction that the people who have the expertise and experience in security aapply it. >> that is personal, diane.
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i'm not equipped to sit and look at blueprints. i take responsibility but i was not making security decisions. >> andrea, that is going to live forever. i take responsibility but no. >> that's exactly what she did at the hearing. i take responsibility, but it doesn't really make a difference and then she said this is personal to me and she welled up. the buck stops with me, hold on, not exactly. this is why she's going to be such a bad candidate. she's never been a particularly good candidate, but we know from covering benghazi extensively here on this show that she had cables sent to her directly by ambassador chris stevens personally requesting more security. now, if you also listen to her, after he passed away, remember when she gave those remarks, she talked about him as a close and personal friend. so she's not just a bad secretary of state, she's a bad friend. if you sent me an email saying you were in danger and you need security and i was your friend and i'm secretary of state, i would pay a little more
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attention to that. so when she says it's personal to me, it really isn't. she didn't care and she would have been a lot shrewder had she said i should have focused more on this but i didn't. >> this is hillary talking about the notes that she kept. >> did you keep a diary during your time? >> i kept a lot of notes. >> if the committee wanted your notes, would you turn them over. >> they can read it on the book. i don't want to be part of something which in in way politicized or demeans the sacrifice that we saw happen there. >> she shared her notes, that would be too political? >> she doesn't want to be part of anything that demeans the sacrifice that we took, yet she said what difference does it make? up until recently when she said the taliban five that were probably aren't going to be dangerous.
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how do you know? it really is that -- i know better than all of you. you people are all stupid, just trust me, i know better. >> i want to play that shot by the way. and i'm keeping bob for last. this is hillary talking about the taliban five. >> these five guys are not a threat to the united states. they are a threat to the safety and security of afghanistan and pakistan. it's up to those two countries to make the decision once and for all that these are threats to them. so i think we may be kind of, you know, missing the bigger picture here. >> kimberly, this interview has not been very good for her. >> it's really bad. besides cantor's pollsters, whoever prepped her for those interviews, fired. i'm really kind of shock to be honest that she's this ill equipped, this unprepared, major mistake legally to admit that she has notes. everyone is going to want that and now the way that she's handling this situation, this woman must not be running.
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>> you have to cut her some slack. she was dead broke. >> that's what it is and please buy her book so that way you don't have to subpoena the notes. >> you can't blame the obama administration fully on this one. she should have distanced herself from this. she needs him to support him. they are not a threat to the united states, they are going to be -- a book club? >> yeah. >>ler, bob. >> as you know, i don't comment on benghazi. it as much history to me as the first world war. >> what difference does it make, it was two years ago, dude? >> you want her to be in charge of national security. wow. ahead, did the white house try to blame defense secretary for the bergdahl-terrorist swap. chuck hagel told his side of the story to congress today. you'll hear it next.
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obama administration traded five dangerous terrorists for an american soldier who may have abandoned his post. chuck hagel appears before congress to defend the decision. >> somebody made the decision that these five were going to be transferred at the end. now, there could have been discussions for going on for months, but somebody made that decision. who was it? in may? >> the decision to transfer, if that's your question. the transfer specifically these five. >> well, those decisions were made by the ultimately the president. >> he did support the deal though and still stands by the decision. >> the president and i would not have moved forward
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complete confidence that we were acting lawfully in the national interests and the best traditions of our country. america does not leave its soldiers behind. we made the right decision. >> standing by the call. probably not too surprising to anybody at this table. your thoughts, andrea? >> chuck hagel was at the department of defense to be a human shield. put a republican with the defense background, so if anything goes wrong, the white house can blame chuck hagel. what i don't get is the double speak. we hear obama said i would do it again. we've heard the reporting that he's wanting to do it for years. so which one is it? would the president do it again, was he hell bent on these five, is it his decision or chuck hagel's? i can't keep up. it's like hillary clinton.
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the buck stops with me. we know it was the president. >> it's like ping-pong back and forth. how do you see this playing out? don't forget, they mentioned his health. that was the sci i jent circumstances. >> number one, it was unit -- unit man nous consent. one hour before, we find out where it was going to be, how it was going to down, they literally were at the hands of taliban through qatar. i thought that was insane. the third one, just very quickly, again, chuck hagel we didn't think it was appropriate, we didn't think we had the time to tell the american people or the representatives. think about that for a second. to do this deal they didn't have time to do yet congress was
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briefed a year in advance of osama bin laden being taken and warned two weeks and two days prior and yet this one, they had no opportunity to hear about that. illegal. >> you are exactly wrong. the negotiations were with the qatari government and of course you are going to deal with the taliban at the end. you have to pick out a place to swap. >> how about tell them -- >> wait a second. they are the ones who got the people over in the middle east. what are are you going to do? meet at starbucks on k street? >> what are you talking about? >> you got to have a discussion where to transfer. >> one hour before. >> can i say, hillary's comments about these guys are a threat to afghanistan and pakistan, they are not threat of us, zero. the chance of them getting back in the united states and doing damage. zero. >> they are going to lay down their weapons and open a goat
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brothel. >> milk and honey farm. >> it's kind of sad to see these guys who work for obama. once you get into the white house, incompetence because contagious. obama virus is a stupid version of the flu. >> you must stay tuned because coming up you are going to hear about date last night. eric set him up. who knows, bachelor bob may not be a bachelor for much longer,
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all right.
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last night aid a blind date that was set up for me by my dear friend eric bolling. let me take you through the night. it was interesting. i showed up at the restaurant. i was supposed to meet eric and his wife and this woman at a restaurant near here. i get there and there are no reservations in my name. so i called eric and eric said i'll be there in two minute. so eric shows up at the restaurant. he disappears with the manager to the backroom. comes back with the manager and the manager says your table will be like whenever you are ready. that was number one. number two was eric's wife is one of the nicest human beings on the planet. >> you are avoiding the date. >> the other thing -- what i saw last night was something i very rarely see. i saw real affection. now the date part of this thing -- >> we want to know about your affection. >> i'm going to get there.
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>> this is not supposed to go there. okay. >> the best way to get you playing that whole game out. >> would you please let me just do this. there's a difference between this woman and the other women i've seen and it basically is this, she's over 35. she has a bachelor and masters degree. >> there she is, right there. >> she speaks english. she knew who bill clinton was and what the vietnam war was. >> she's very pretty. >> she's bright and funny, artist, works with special needs kids. she has a very supportive mother. she is a wonderful person and i very much appreciate being there and eric, i appreciate it. we're going to -- well, we'll see what happens. >> what everyone wants to know is there a second date? >> yes, there is. next week. we had dinner and i didn't choke and i had beef and i had shrimp.
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>> she looks very young. >> she doesn't -- you had fun. >> i had a lot of fun. >> some of the other girls that bob --. she's age appropriate. >> by the way, i was a gentleman all night long. i didn't -- i was just a gentleman all night long. >> all night long? when did the date end? >> 1:00 or something. >> can i relate or something? bad traffic in new york city, we get there, we're waiting, oh, my gosh, maybe she's not going to show. before she comes, bob goes i think this is going to be good. i have a good feeling about this. i'm proud of you, brother. >> she's one of those people that automatically you find to be a nice person, she's funny and she smiles and she's, you know -- >> does she care that you are -- does she know you are basically on the five version of the bachelor without the roses? >> i checked with her, and she
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said it was fine. and she and her mother watch "the five." eric met her as a result of the "the five." >> is she a liberal or a conservative? >> she is a right wing republican, which is -- that's all i ever meet. that's the problem. i'm trying -- you win national elections. i want to find where some democrats are. maybe because i hang around here. i get a date and i thought, maybe date, it would be a democrat. no. no. >> did you pick a restaurant for your next day in date? >> no, not yet. i'm going up there to her hometown. >> a hometown date already, andrea. >> it's like the bachelor. bachelor bob without the roses. >> i thought it was a nice thing to do. she lives about 20 miles beyond george washington bridge in in new york. >> i can't tell you how many people on twitter said i would have dated bob. >> they meant carbon dated. >> that would have been pretty
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easy vem i was born in 1892. thank you, eric. i really mean that about the affection between and you your wife. i've never seen anything like that. i never had any affection when i was a kid and greg having his mother be supportive. my mother was never around. to me, it was a revelation. >> did chef a good relationship with her dad? that's key. >> very good. >> that sounds very healthy and normal. >> one more thing is up next.
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time for one more thing and andrea kicks it off. >> today on fox and friends, the special olympics 2014 game kicked off with torch lighting. the games are being hosted in new jersey and 21st century fox is a major sponsor of the game and i will be there on sunday to run out with a pennsylvania
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delegation on to the field at the center and cover the games and cover this one athlete, zach stroik. he's a soccer goalie. >> bad phrase. think outside the box, don't ever think outside the box. nothing good comes from thinking outside the box. even though i'm in a box here. i am seeking inside it. you need to have structure, limits, discipline creates creative. people who think outside the box, they are idiots. don't do it. >> what's the box? >> i don't know. box is supposed to be boring. oh, go wild, go crazy. no, you are fired. >> there's a special person, a friend of the five, his greta
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van susteren celebrating her birthday. happy birthday, greta. andrea is in for greta tonight on the record be sure to watch her so she can have some nice time off and the fivers are pitching in to help out. >> the whole controversy offer the red skins team name, whether they should change their team name. i've been against it. but i've got to tell you the native american group put together this ad. it's very compelling. watch. >>. >> navajo, black foot, sitting bull, high awawtha and jim thorpe. native americans call themselves many things. the one thing they don't.
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>> it's compelling. >> that's very, very good. >> that's a native american group that aired in the nba finals. it may air again. it really makes you kind of think about it. >> what i've got is a big announcement, and that is that my man teddy cruz has now given up his canadian citizenship. so my man teddy cruz now is eligible to run for president in 2016 and of course i'm endorsing him early. i nt you to look at that picture and ask yourself, think about a vulcan. but he's my man and i only ask that sarah palin consider running for vice president again or perhaps -- i don't know -- maybe ryan again -- no, no, boehner, what's his name, cantor. my man teddy cruz, congratulations, buddy.
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you gave up your citizenship so you could run for president. i'm with you, pal. anything i could do to help you, i'd be happy to do it. >> who makes these posters for you? >> this is josh and porter's idea. this is my man. i've been saying he's my man for a long time. don't anybody take this poster. >> teddy and mickey. >> put it up in your office. >> i'm going to leave it right there. don't forget to set your dvrs so you never miss an episode of "the five." special report next. >> it is thursday, june 12th. a new benghazi bombshell, while americans were being slaughtered
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they we terrorists were on state department cell phones. what it means to the time line. >> it was 20-years ago today it was the chase that captivated the world. the ford bronco how you can get behind bars. >> ben affleck banned again? the unlucky streak that may have gotten him kicked out of another casino. "fox & friends first" starts right now. ♪ >> the sun has not come up here
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in new york city for about 30 minutes. give it 30 minutes we will start seeing the sun. >> it is thursday morning. >> weekend is almost here. >> i am heather childers. eric cantor's historic upset setting off a leadership scramble on capitol hill. >> doug luzader is live from washington. what is eric cantor's exit plan. >> the personal set back is a setback for the republican party as a whole. here's what eric cantor said yesterday. >> while i intend to serve out my term as a member of congress in the 7th district of virginia, effective july 31st i will be stepping down as majority leader. it is with great humility that i do so knowing the tremendous honor it has been to hold this position. >> there are

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